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bungledandbotched's avatar

Can anyone tell me if there were any reports at OKC that match the descriptions given by survivors of the London Billingsgate bombing in 1993 of a huge cloud of water vapour coming from the detonation of the device?

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Meiden_Tower's avatar

I remebered to read richard's document about the clouds that cant be coming from anfo device , so Richard knows it , During my research there is no %100 possibilty that okc bomb is made of anfo,it could be ammonium nitrate-nitromethane, low chance for ammonium nitrate -urea nitrate(Urea nitrate used in Twin towers bombing) So If okc bomb is not anfo , It couldnt give same characteristic as london billingsgate bomb

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bungledandbotched's avatar

Thank you for your reply, the nitromethane makes sense, in your opinion, would you say that the type of device that you described, would be capable of the damage to the Murray building?

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OKC Facts's avatar

No. I believe that there was both a truck bomb and explosives in the building.

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OKC Facts's avatar

given there were 3 'bomb scares' - I do not believe that firefighters and rescuers are retarded and saw what were clearly training devices and thought "oh that's a real bomb"

I believe they likely discovered something attached to a column during one of those scares, and it was taken apart and removed when everyone was away.

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also note: Dolores WATSON encountered Tim McVeigh inside the MFB parking garage (he had a backpack on) at night around 10:00 PM one night. Why? What was he doing inside that parking garage days before? How about the other 3 guys spotted by Jane Graham and Ruth Schwab?

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Joe Fondren's avatar

Jesse Trentadue has been fighting for a long time. I had him as a guest on my radio show on 100,000 watt station WRJM in, I think, 2005. His kind of dedication and tenacity is vital for truth and freedom.

Also worth mentioning is the good work done by William F. Jasper and others at The New American Magazine in real time as the investigation (SP) of the OKC inside job was unfolding.

TNA is where I first heard of Jesse Trentadue, and was quick to invite him on The Joe Fondren Show. My listeners found what he had to say very interesting. God speed, Jesse.

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OKC Facts's avatar

I agree re Jasper, I have been reading his material since the 90s. William Jasper did a lot of excellent work on this subject. I'll tell Jesse that Joe Fondren from a radio show in 2005 says hello ang God speed.

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Joe Fondren's avatar

Thank you for that, and thank you for keeping alive the importance of this stain on the face of Americana.

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Meiden_Tower's avatar

I think terry must respond the question is Who give him the idea that sell the aminium nitrate on the gun shows?

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OKC Facts's avatar

i will ask Terry and let you know what he says if he answers it.

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OKC Facts's avatar

he was trying to get rid of it and thought he could make money doing so. nope. nobody buys a tiny bag of fertilizer, LOL

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OKC Facts's avatar

i think that was his dumb idea. grinding it up in a food processor and selling it in small quantities sounds like a hare brained Nichols idea for sure.

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Meiden_Tower's avatar

Hi thanks for answering I am too greatful If You ask him that . I,My theory is that Somebody ( ) coaxed him to do this business , That person had to convince terry to make great profit it so that person tell him I need 10 gallon aminium nitrate then make fake purchases(I mean he bought it to convince terry that this business is profitable)

And I read terry's whole trial,and Prosecutors never explain that joplin brand aminium nitrate prills wasnt idintified on the bombing scene ,it was different prills. Am I wrong?

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OKC Facts's avatar

I don't know if you are wrong or not, as I admit my knowledge of the specific prills utilized is lacking, I'd have to look it up somewhere. I've spent much time focusing on other areas, and as you see this case has so many angles which precisely why we need so many people looking at it

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Meiden_Tower's avatar

Hi I was finding the testimony of prills , and I found it in mcveigh’s trial on 28 may 1997

on cross

That's correct. Q. Sure. Now, with respect to the crystals on Q507, if I understand your testimony, it's your belief that these prills were blasted into the side of Q507 after it miraculously lost 90 percent of its half-inch original body and what the silicon and the aluminum that you found on it is the remains of the coating. Right? A. That is a component in coating materials, yes. Q. ICI Joplin prills in 1994 also had talc as a coating, didn't they? A. That's correct, yes. Q. And a component of talc is magnesium; isn't that correct? A. That's correct. Q. You found no magnesium in the crystals on Q507, did you? A. The elemental profile did not show any magnesium in those crystals. That's correct.

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Meiden_Tower's avatar

10 gallon is example :)

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